In Jesus Dave and Sally Humphrey

Ps Danny, those that stand for Christ, know and discern exactly what you are saying;

We will continue to uphold you in prayer for your continued strength.

Blessings John and Louise

God spoke to me about 7 years ago when Kevin Rudd was not so much anyone really, and told me to watch his rising, and to pray for him as one day he will be prime minister. Which I have been doing. Regardless of the fact that I do not agree with a lot of what the man stands for and has said we need to be praying for his total conversion to Jesus Christ.

Your prophecy had encouraged me that we still had time….
Reality is that I voted according to my convictions, and was hoping and praying that this election would not be when this would happen, and was devestated as much as anyone at the outcome of this election, because I’d always hoped that Kevin would in fact be turned upside down for Jesus BEFORE coming to power.

Having said all that I really want to encourage all, that Jesus was not taken by surprise and He knows what we are all facing and will empower us by His grace to walk through whatever comes. It is time now to call forth the word that even out of affliction the gold of revival can arise.

Danny for future reference to actually bring change and correction to His body, Jesus has given in the word guidelines of how that is brought to pass and only one of the principles is declaring the prophetic word. If you would like to discuss this sometime contact me. Take a look in acts where Paul and Barnabus took a situation to the Jerusalem council, and actually they already had been delegated the authority to deal with the situation, yet they went to the council and convened. Then from the decision the council made, they took a team of Prophets with them ( one of the ways Apostles and Prophets work together), and they the Apostles delivered the word of the Lord, as agreed by the council, to correct a situation, then the Prophets exhorted the people.

True prophetic exhortation once apostolic authority is released, can and will empower people by God’s grace (grace means the divine influence on the heart and the reflection in the life thereof including gratefulness) - will empower people to rise above selfish motives and do what they should do.

To declare God’s word without the empowerment to walk it out is like declaring to a shoe to walk, come on shoe you were designed to walk. Then being cross with the shoe for doing what it does natureally without a foot in it, just sits there waiting. If we want the body of Christ to rise up we need to work with God in helping them be positioned for His foot to step into, then look out Australia.

In the new testament when Jesus gave the great commission, then empowered the disciples to go, by sending Holy Spirit, they still stayed around having a good time in fellowship, what eventually forced them into God’s will was persecution, which scattered them.

Be encouraged God is not taken by surprise and still His plans for Australia will not be averted.

Love and blessings.
Lee

The Labor Party is actually not a political party at all - it masquerades as one. It is a religious party with its doctrine being humanism, atheism, and naturalism, and its god is man (that is, the glorification of man to solve all problems in the world and society to the blasphemous exclusion of its Creator - God).

The Church can expect the insiduous and subtle persecution of Christians that have increased under State Labor, to increase further now with some unfettering of the shackles of decency that has resulted due to the large Federal Labor win. I have just received word that even the new Liberal leader is now falling into the moral abyss and supporting the recognition of homosexual relationships.

But God be glorified because His ways are right and pure and the victory is His. Persecution brings perseverance and focuses the mind on the glorious Son.

Blessings in Christ, David

I want to thank you for the stand you took and continue to take in our nation.
We will not understand everything this side of eternity, we may not even agree on the things we think we understand, but we are one in Jesus Christ and we stand together as one body united in Jesus Christ.
We believe that Australia will see the Glory of God and His kingdom come on earth just as it is in Heaven!

Keep on cathcing the fire! James and Jenny

I could hardly sleep last Saturday night for anguish as to what was happening in the election. I saw the jubilation from the Labor camp as releasing a demonic flow over the country, a vicious rabble that had been waiting, scrapping behind the starting barriers, to burst out upon their legal release: the announcement of Labor victory. They knew they were about to get freedom. They had already cornered and achieved confusion in Howard who, not having enough knowledge or power through the Holy Spirit, had crumbled on some major as well as minor issues, providing further fuel for the blind amongst Christian brothers and sisters to vote against him.

I saw it, with dismay, as the devil’s gazumping of God. I knew He could be gazumped, just as our all powerful God can be helpless: that is, when we, his children, make decisions that are not in his will! He will not over ride the free will he gave us but has to stand back and let one of his spiritual laws take effect: individual or corporate, decisions bring the same thing, we reap what we sow …

Your explanation here about division in the body tells me more about the ways of God, and His dealing with his people in the 21st century (as of old!) that I was anxious to know in this particular instance.

I was also relieved to hear your personal welfare was restored and intact in the wake of such a shattering experience. I could see you in Albany when you heard of the election result - I know the place well from my youth, having been born and spent the first 15 years of my life just north of there, in Mount Barker.

So thank you and bless you.For this and all the other messages from CTF I received this morning.

These days I meet with the Nelsons in Pambula, having recently left a church (with a proper and courteous farewell!) that was following the wrong track, not because of political beliefs only but for many reasons, mainly of deception.

At the Nelsons, this email message of yours was read out in group and we prayed for you and the government situation. Long and hard.

I look forward to seeing you at Aglow and other meetings in Merimbula next week, hearing your words from God and affirming you.

Blessings, grace and mercy upon you, your family and Jason and other members of your faithful team, and travelling protection where ever you go.

Clare

I am an ordinary house mum and wife who serves an amazing God.

I determined to make my vote count and DID NOT vote Greens nor Labor.

In His service Chris

Keep believing, & may God’s smile of favour & blessing be upon you,& your family.

Lynne & Peter Geelong

o u said about the election. there was no unity in the church on the issue of howard returning. May god forgive us for this sin. praying for you and your family.

Thankyou for being bold to declare God’s word on the election on your website, and the update on why we didn’t get God’s best. Prior to checking out your website in the week before the election, I was looking forward to the changes Labour government would bring (but not casting my vote with them, and hoping Labour/Greens did not have control of the Senate).

Some months before the election I talked with a spirit-filled pastor who has a lot of contact with parliamentarians in Canberra. Not long beforehand he had been phoned up by Kevin Rudd asking for prayer. It wasn’t my place to ask more, but the pastor volunteered that Kevin Rudd was unequally yoked to Julia Gillard. She represents the socialist left wing of the Labour Party. While not electable in her own right as a Prime Minister, I expect she will use her anti-Christian influence as Jezebel did through Ahab.

Kevin Rudd really needs our prayers, to stand up against ungodly influences of the Socialist Left. We can be glad that Kevin Rudd is a Christian, and willing to seek advice and prayer from charismatic pastors. Within the Labour Party he can’t be as open about his faith as in the Liberal Party. (Like Tony Blair in the British labour Party). Anything that shows the size and influence of the Christian vote will help him in these internal party battles. That’s why I cast my vote with Family First.

Now we have Julia Gillard as Education Minister, able to choose people aligned to her point of view to govern Commonwealth funding to independent schools (including Christian schools). Very little of this will go through cabinet, nor the Parliament, because it would be within her executive authority as Minister.

I write this message as a fellow Christian, and a fellow believer in charismatic gifts and of the relevance of the living prophetic word in the life of the church today. I am encouraged by the fact that there are fellow Christians who believe that God wishes to pour out His spirit on this nation of Australia, and appreciate the efforts your ministry has made in moving forward with such passion and enthusiasm in your quest to see this vision become reality.

Danny, your recent prophecy predicting a Howard landslide victory in the 2007 Federal Election, and the claiming of Peter Costello as ‘God’s anointed’ PM has caused me great concern over recent weeks.

You spoke with such authority on this matter, and invoked the name of God in such a way, and with such specific detail, that I sat up and took notice when I came across this prophecy while visiting the ‘Crikey’ website. At the time, I was not certain whether or not events would transpire as you suggested, and awaited the outcome of the election with considerable interest.

When it transpired that your prophetic words were off the mark - twice, it would seem, I felt sad for you, and expected to hear an interesting response on your website; perhaps some words of humility and a commitment to be more cautious in the future when making such statements.

However, having read your response, and the comments of your supporters on the forum, I fear that there is a real sense of ‘denial’ going on, and that lots of words are being written which are what itching ears are willing to hear, rather than words of truth and advice which needs to be advanced at such a time.

Danny, when you speak in such a way and claim prophetic insights which then fail to occur, you risk driving a wedge between Christians and those who are unbelievers, or even curious seekers, and provide fuel which opens up the prophetic gift to ridicule and mockery in the eyes of the world.

As much as it pains me to say this, I believe in this case the prophetic word that you believe you heard may have been a manifestation of your own desires, rather than a genuine insight from God.

I believe there is a hard and perhaps painful lesson that must be learned here; and that is that we must be exercise caution and humility when speaking in a prophetic manner.

In fairness, I accept that in your response that you have invoked the sentence “IF THE BODY OF CHRIST UNITES IN PRAYER AND ACTION” as a kind of ‘escape clause’, implying that though God apparently desired the Coalition to be re-elected, Australians have now gone their own way and voted for ’self gain and personal change.’

But this raises another problem. Your words clearly imply that you believe that the Liberal party has earned God’s wholesale spiritual endorsement. I am also rather concerned about the language you use which frames the Election in spiritual terms, with the Liberals deemed to be the conduit of spiritual revival, and Labor and the Greens flagged as representatives of ‘the powers and principalities’ of darkness.

You take great pains to mention (correctly) that the Labor party advocate many policies which seem to be troublesome to Christians, including:

- Advocacy for same-sex couples
- Liberal abortion laws
- Support for Vilification laws (although Rudd seems open to advice on this matter)
- Elimination of Prayer in Parliament (although this is more a bastion of Democrat and Greens policy)

I agree that these issues should be of serious concern to Christian voters. However, you fail to mention the flipside, the fact that the former Coalition themselves held to a number of policies which should have been of equal concern to followers of Jesus. These include:

- Neglect of our responsibility to be responsible stewards of God’s creation (by not pursuing clean energy as means to mitigate climate change)
- A policy towards asylum seekers which runs counter to Bible’s commandments to care for the widow and the fatherless (”As you have done to the least of these - so you have done to Me.”)
- Supporting treatment of enemy combatants which would classify as torture to most reasonable people, and denying natural justice to terrorist suspects. (Love your enemies, do good to those who persecute you.)
- Not honoring our promise to commit 0.7% of GDP to the Millennium Development goals, aimed at alleviating poverty and hunger.

From the above examples it seems clear to me that both parties have policy pros and cons, both require some measure of reform, and it should be clear that no party has a monopoly on God and can laim to be representing ‘Christian values’ across the whole ethical spectrum.

There are committed Christians in all parties. From Kevin Rudd and Peter Garrett on the more progressive side, to Tony Abbott and Peter Costello on the more conservative end. I feel that we need to move beyond the notion of God endorsing a particular party, and instead encourage and exhort these Christians, and others, to work within their own parties to bring about reformational policy changes, across all political persuasions.

As a constructive case, I refer you to the example of Bono, a modern day version of the prophet Micah, who sought out the influential leader Bill Hybells and passionately exhorted him to marshal his forces to join the fight against poverty, using the words of Christ to justify his case. This to me seems a great example of where people from different ends of the left/right political spectrum can come together for the purposes of Christ and the good of humanity.

I wish you all the best for your ministry, and pray that you would treat this message in the spirit which it is intended (i.e. being constructive rather than judgmental). I simply urge you in the future to seek wise counsel from seasoned Christians (e.g. Tim Costello, George Pell, Peter Jensen) before making such prophetic proclamations. It may be especially helpful to seek out Christians who may have held differing viewpoints to you in the past to gain a fuller perspective.

Yours in Christ, most respectfully,

James

I too was devastated by the results of the election last weekend especially when I read your prophesy and had been praying for John Howard. Many thanks that you were willing to speak out what God had told you. However as you say many Christians were deceived by Labours promises and as far as I am concerned a vote for Labour was a vote for the Greens who have many anti-Christian policies. I will continue to pray for you and for this great nation of ours but thank you for standing up for what you believe in and may our God reign supreme.

I preached a very interesting sermon on Sunday in Romans - what Paul is saying about people in government and how Christians have to obey them.

As for me Howard or Rudd or whoeverelse - I will honour. Only if I am asked to do something against the Word of God - then I will stand for God. If not for other issues - we are supposed to pray for the evil and God will heal our land.

For prophecy - in regard to Election etc - we should be careful. As the Bible says, anyone in rule is ordained by God and appointed by Him for a season or many seasons.